SwimRun: How the champions do it!

Team Sportextreme.com: Winners at LochGuLoch!
Team Sportextreme.com: Winners at LochGuLoch!

There must be something in the water up in Edinburgh as following hot on the heels of our last post, we’ve got an all-female team from the same Tri Club!  This time its the winners from LochGuLoch 2015 sharing their SwimRun story so far. They’ve got masses of endurance event experience between them and unfinished business at oTillo it seems.
If you’re hoping to learn anything from these interviews – THIS is essential reading!

So between mouthfulls of noodles at a post-swim Wagamama’s here’s what they had to say….

Team name: sportextreme.com
Team members: Rosemary Byde / Izzy Joiner

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How do you know each other? 
We met in 2012 a week before the Celtman triathlon at a reservoir in the hills above Edinburgh. We’re in the same club, and someone introduced us. Then we got to know each other in intervals of 10 seconds as we passed and re-passed during the race. But we didn’t meet up regularly or get to know each other really well until this year. This was our first year doing swimrun together, and our first race was in June.

What do you do when you’re not jumping into cold water with your shoes on?
IJ: Lie on the sofa / get warm! Cycle and run, but there’s not been much cycling going on this year. Sit with my cat.
RB: In fact, we do both have respectable jobs as well. But they keep getting in the way of training! I like to call myself a high tech crime fighter. I’m also learning Italian, so I keep looking out for teams from Italy, though I haven’t managed to talk to any yet.

You were 1st female team at lochguloch, and finishers at the Ötillö world champs, what else do you have on your cv?
RB: We came 3rd at our first swimrun race in Borås in June.
IJ: We both did well at the first Celtman event. I’m an Ironman addict and my best result was 5th in age group at Ironman France.
RB: I love adventure racing and have done everything from 5 hour to 5 day non-stop events in all weathers. I’ve managed to get on the podium in a few triathlons as well. Izzy’s finished an ultra run, which I’m a bit jealous about!

crossing the line at ÖTILLÖ 2015
crossing the line at ÖTILLÖ 2015

And how’s your calendar looking for 2016?
IJ: There are lots of things on the ‘want to do list’, but the calendars empty!
RB: It’s because we want to try and get into Ötillö again. What we do depends on the outcome of our application. We’re definitely going to do some more swimrun though.
IJ: I want to do another Ironman if I can, in the middle of it all!
RB: If we don’t qualify for Ötillö, we’ll be spoilt for choice with all the new races here. I’d like to do some more longer running events as well.

How do the swimrun races you’ve done rank against other endurance events you’ve done?
IJ: Hard! It’s quite tough and relentless because of the number of changes between swimming and running. It’s harder to break it down mentally.
RB: I asked Izzy on the finish line of Ötillö how it compared to an ironman, and she said definitely harder! There was something about the emotion that went into it, and the stress we had at times racing the cut offs. In some ways I found it more physically draining even than multi-day events, because of the intensity (speed).
IJ: I don’t think anything can quite compare to the first Ironman I finished, which was also my first endurance event. But swimrun is very different, it’s more wild, and the swims aren’t as sanitised and safe. There are fewer rules and you’re not going to bump into a referee on a motorbike! The fields are also smaller which makes it feel more intense.
RB: I like doing triathlon, but I prefer the way you feel as if you’re going on a journey from one place to another in a swimrun.

LochGuLoch - Stunning surroundings (photo Steve Ahsworth)
LochGuLoch – Stunning surroundings (photo Steve Ahsworth)

How does it feel being at the front of a race, rather than chasing someone else down?
IJ: I don’t like it! It’s stressful!
RB: In triathlon, if I start the run in the lead I feel under a lot of pressure as it’s my weakest link. But in swimrun, the disciplines are more balanced throughout, so I felt more confident. I agree it can be stressful though.
IJ: If you all have the same colour swim hats it is harder to identify who you’re racing against. I mistook one poor guy without a hat and with long hair for a girl at Loch gu Loch. I thought a female team was about to overtake us!
RB: She did apologise to him though!

Endurance races are about mental strength as much as physical strength, how do you help each other through the lows?
RB: I tried singing to cheer Izzy up a few times, but I might have made it worse!
IJ: When Rosemary’s having a low, I like to check she’s OK and chat to her.
RB: Yeah, that helps, I like some chat! The right food proffered at the right time can also work wonders.
IJ: In a long hard run at Ötillö, Rosemary broke the run into smaller chunks by checking how fast we were running every 8 minutes.
RB: I love thinking about numbers and statistics. I think Izzy might have switched off to my ramblings after a while though!

Which one of you breaks first?
IJ: Neither of us breaks, we might just have a little paddy and then move on!
RB: I agree, it’s a team event so you’re always working together and helping each other. It’s so long that you’ll both have ups and downs. I only chose to race with Izzy because I knew she was tough enough.

Before we go any further, I’d just like to point everyone towards these 2 articles you wrote for LochGuLoch. If you’re new to SwimRun and have any questions on kit or tactics or pretty much anything else – these articles have it covered.

Click to access toptips.pdf

http://lochguloch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/toptips2.pdf

 

The tips articles you did for lochguloch are brilliant and I’m finding them really helpful for creating my own kit list and training schedule. Did you get much feedback from other swimrunners on those?
RB: it was funny as we kept bumping into people when we were out training who had read our tips and knew us!
IJ: At the start of Loch gu Loch we got loads of comments from other racers around us.
RB: I was surprised how many people had read them. It was great to get such positive feedback.
IJ: When we got off the boat that takes you to the start at Ötillö, one of the race directors told us he liked our transition video: ‘very British humour’, he said!

What did you have to learn the hard way?
IJ: To put superglue on the back of my neck! I was getting bad wetsuit rash. We worked out it was better if I did my suit up a certain way, but it had got so bad it never really healed. You should also be careful which tri shorts to use if you want to avoid chaffage!
RB: I stuck with running shorts. I don’t think we made any major mistakes because we did a lot of research into kit and spoke to people who had raced swimrun before.
IJ: It wasn’t as bad as I was anticipating!
RB: One thing we did learn is that if you’re going to race on rocks, you should train on rocks. We had a very tough time at Ötillö on some of the unfamiliar terrain. I’d also mention it’s a good idea to bring running shoes with you to a swim run training session …

Most racers at UK events next year are going to be first-timers. What are your 3 top tips for success?
IJ: Practice doing swim and run together, practice transitions, practice in your kit!
RB: Learn how to wee whilst swimming, make sure your food wrappers are waterproof, never give up.

You’re in a wetsuit for a long time during the race so you must be faced with 2 choices: do you wee on the run or the swim?!
IJ: On the swim – much easier!
RB: I tried to master that skill but I still need to practice some more 😀 . I mostly went for the in-between moments.

Does everyone around you think you’re mad?
IJ: Yes!
RB: It depends who’s around, but yes! We’re in good company though 🙂

 

If you want to read more about Rosemary’s adventures, you can follow her exploits at www.planetbyde.co.uk – it really is an inspiring diary of an endurance athlete.

Once again, if you made it this far then you must be keen! Give me a shout if you’d like your team featured in an article. Experienced or first-timers, we want to hear from you. We’ve had no-one who did the BrecaSwimrun race in 2015 yet, where are you? Get in touch!

If you liked this, you might like our other SwimRun Team Profiles

The Grande Rouge
Tri Energy Mums
Tuff Fitty

 

 

Show Us How Its Done: The Grande Rouge

I’ve been thinking about my biggest concerns about Breca SwimRun.
At the moment, its wetsuit choice (and affordability!) and getting in some specific training sessions. Some others I’ve spoken to are worried about which shoes to choose? Paddles or no-paddles? And I’d imagine there are people reading this who want to enter who don’t even have a partner yet!
So I thought this would be a good time to hear from a team who have been through all this, who probably had the same concerns in the build up as we will. Hopefully it will reassure us that we’re on the right track so far, or give us things to think about that we hadn’t before, maybe give us a chance to learn from their mistakes.
Their experience might even help to persuade others to enter their own team.
So whilst “The Grande Rouge” won’t be at Breca next year, this interview should help us all with our own preparations….

Team Name: The Grande Rouge
Team Members: Richard Frickleton & Erin Beveridge

The Grande Rouge - Richard & Erin
The Grande Rouge – Richard & Erin

Who are you, where are you from and how do you know each other? 
We are Boyfriend & Girlfriend and live in Edinburgh – We met through the triathlon club we are both members of. (you can read more about Richards adventures over at his blog)

What do you do when you’re not jumping into lakes with your shoes on or running round in wetsuits? 
Over the past couple of years we have both been trying to get to grips with triathlon! So you’ll usually find us swim/bike/running about Edinburgh and the surrounding areas. As we come into winter we abandon the roads for the hills and do lots of mountain biking & cross country.

What had you done in the past?
RF
– I was a xc-mountain biker for a long time but ended up getting roped into doing a few adventure races. Loads of these guys were triathletes and they planted the seed for getting involved in triathlon and since then I’ve been hooked.  I’ve only done a handful of short course races each year mostly because of injury & work but I love splitting my time across all the disciplines, I say I love it what I mean is I tolerate the swimming but love the rest.
EB – I was a sprint hurdler at school but unfortunately my legs didn’t grow as quickly as the height of the hurdles did (plus I was competing against Eilidh Child). Played hockey while at university in Glasgow gaining a coaching qualification before leaving to work in France & New Zealand. Once I was back I was talked into cycling 1000 miles round Scotland for charity, some of the guys doing it were triathletes and since then I have done a handful of short course races each year before I decided it would be a good idea to try and swim 8k in a SwimRun race.

Which SwimRun race did you take part in?
Loch Lomond Inch by Inch – its a good one for spectators!

And how did you get on? What can you tell us about your experience?
We finished 10th out of the 40 teams and 2nd mixed pair so its safe to say our first experience of swim run was very good. Because this is still a relatively new format a lot of the other competitors were also doing it for the first time so the atmosphere pre-race was different, there is a lot more chat mostly about how you have been training for it and how you made your kit. (ahh, we’ll get onto that in a minute)

How competitive was it?
It appeared to attract 2 particular types of people, none of which we fitted into. #1: Good/confident swimmers (obviously) & #2: Multiple Ironman finishers.  We did find however that fitting into either of these categories didn’t guarantee success because none of these involve swimming and running multiple times in one day while wearing a wetsuit and carrying all your gear. We were amazed that people we had talked to the days/weeks/months before who were looking forward to an event which focused on their strengths (swimmers), finished after we did. A lot of them underestimated how much the running would affect their swimming and how much the wetsuit would affect their running and generally how preparation for a triathlon is different for preparing for a swim run.

How does the saying go, “fail to prepare…?”
We also found that no matter what race strategy people had decided on, in the heat of competition you’ll always do what’s quickest. For example quite a few people had decided to take their shoes off for the swims but that quickly changed when they were sitting trying to get their shoes off & on while others just ploughed in and out of the water without stopping. I guess what I am getting at is that because this is still a new concept in the UK it is possible to do well even if you are not the fittest or fastest (it helps) but as long as you have put some thought into your preparation you can do quite well.

Why Swimrun? Why not a normal race/triathlon?
It all came about because Richard was looking to raise money for charity and thought this would be ideal. We needed something different, something which wasn’t a hobby and something people could clearly see was out of our comfort zone – Had it not been for that I don’t know if I would have ever attempted to try this, never mind wanting to do it again!

Talking of which, are you going to put yourselves through it all again? 
We do want to do it again but next year it all depends on having enough time & holidays to do it. Annoyingly all my friends are getting married and the stag doos & weddings at the same time as a lot of the events. If we are going to do one it will be the Snowdonia swim run event in August.

Team Dynamics: What do you each bring to the team? 
In the build up Richard dealt with the coaching, planning all the swim sets and swim run sessions and Erin did a lot of the research into kit (I.e cut up an old wetsuit or buy a specific sim/run wetsuit). On race day we were all about trying to enjoy ourselves & making sure we both made it to the end in one piece.

"In one piece" - 2nd mixed pair! Loch Lomond Inch By Inch
“In one piece” – 2nd mixed pair! Loch Lomond Inch By Inch

Did teamwork make the dreamwork? Or had you fallen out with each other by the end?
We maybe weren’t the quickest but as a team we worked well and managed not to fall out and just generally had a good laugh as we went round – we’re quite good at telling when one another is struggling.

Have you got any equipment tricks/tips or hacks you can share with others? 
The one tip we were given which I wish I had done was putting some kind of floatation down the front of my compression socks. As I tired I found even with my pull buoy my legs were sinking and a little bit more floatation would have been helpful.

What are your 3 biggest tips for a successful race?
#1
: Train for the specific demands of the race – it’s not a triathlon get used to getting in and out of the water and get to know what effect running has on your swimming and vice versa. Plunging back into cold water after a long run is something you need to prepare your body for!

#2: Plan when you will fuel yourself – It’s going to be a long day and the only time you can eat and drink is on the run (which isn’t easy). Look for sections of the run where it may be just as fast to walk rather than run and take on some nutrition at that point, it’s better than attempting to wolf something down as you fly through a feed station, you’ll be grateful later in the day if you do.

#3: Trial and error – Experiment with kit & tactics don’t just do what everyone else does. E.g paddles – these were not for us, we found the extra effort we had to put in did not make us any quicker & killed our shoulders but then again loads of the teams found it made them swim more efficiently

What would you say to someone thinking of signing up?
Go for it, be one of the first to say you tried swimrun – but don’t underestimate the physical challenge its completely different to a triathlon.

And there we have it, some great tips to take away there. Big thanks to Richard & Erin for taking the time out to answer these questions. If you made it this far, thanks for reading too! 
If you liked this, you might like the team profiles we’ve done so far for Breca 2016, Tuff Fitty & Tri Energy Mums
Finally, If you’ve got experience you’d like to share, or if you’d like your Breca SwimRun team profiled then get in touch. 

Calling All SwimRunners!

As you may know, I’m doing Breca SwimRun in 2016 (here’s my previous post on it) and I got to thinking about the other teams involved. The entry list has been doubled from 50 to 100 teams due to demand which means there could be 99 other teams out there on July 2nd that me and Tom will be racing against.
If you’re reading this, that might include you?

In my initial excitement of entering the race I searched for race reports, reviews, equipment tips and other articles. And unsurprisingly, I came up with very little. SwimRun is very much in its infancy. 2015 saw just 3 UK races – The Lake District, Loch Ness & Loch Lomond.
However, its definitely growing, 2016 sees races in Snowdonia, and in the outer Hebrides too. And in addition, established races are introducing shorter distances, SwimRun Sprints if you like, which makes it more accessible to first-timers. I’ve also found LoveSwimRun which looks like it might become a valuable resource for UK SwimRunners.

So I thought I’d do my bit to keep the momentum building. I’m excited about this race, I’m fascinated about the other participants, I’m curious as to how it all works on race day. I can’t wait to find out what it will feel like at the top of the fells looking down on Lake Buttermere. And I might develop all this at some point into a dedicated SwimRun Website.

So via Twitter and Facebook, I’ve started getting in touch with some of the teams and running some interviews. If you’d like to be involved then please get in touch. If you’ve taken part in a SwimRun event in the UK, or if you’ve got one booked in the calendar then I want to hear from you.
Lets build the sport together, and grow a community with it.

I’ll be kicking things off very soon with a profile of our own team. We’ll be posing questions to each other and I hope we’ll still be friends by the end of it.

I look forward to hearing from you.